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On a recent interview Fox News’ “O’Reilly Factor“, Bill O’Reilly and Deepak Chopra M.D. discussed religion and the existence of a deity. The interview begins with a heated debate O’Reilly had with atheist author Richard Dawkins claiming the Judeo-Christian philosophy is merely a myth.

O’Reilly compared Chopra’s book “War of the Worldviews: Science vs. Spirituality” to Dawkins’ children’s book on evolution, “The Magic of Reality: How We Know What’s Really True“.

During the interview Chopra accused Dawkins of being emotionally reactive and of hiding behind his scientific credentials to “camouflage his bigotry”.

After briefly discussing Dawkins view point, O’Reilly bluntly asked Chopra “What has convinced you that there is a deity? And do you believe in an active God, a God that actually intervenes in human life?”

Chopra replies:

“The more we understand the nature of the Universe though science, the more we also understand there’s more unknown and there’s the unknowable. The unknowable because the scientific discoveries show that the laws of physics themselves preclude us from intellectually getting in touch with the source, you have to go beyond the intellect, you have to listen to the heart. The heart has reasons that reason doesn’t know. And you have to in a sense understand the great prophet ‘Jesus’ (who ever), they transcended to a level where they were in touch with the mystery…

I think there’s an active source, an intelligent source that is omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient, and that we have a connection to that…”

Watch the complete interview below:

Be sure to check out ‘War of the Worldviews: Science Vs. Spirituality‘ by Authors Deepak Chopra M.D. and Leonard Mlodinow

Chief Seattle (1786-1866) of the Duwamish tribe, also known as Chief Sealth was a prominent figure among the American Indian people. The city of Seattle, Washington had been named in memory of him. Chief Seattle is remembered for the famous speech he gave at a large outdoor gathering in Seattle on March 11th, 1854 concerning the concession of native lands to the settlers.

“The President in Washington sends word that he wishes to buy our land. But how can you buy or sell the sky? The land? The idea is strange to us.

If we do not own the freshness of the air and the sparkle of the water how can you buy them? Every part of this earth is sacred to my people. Every shining pine needle, every sandy shore, every mist in the dark woods, every meadow, every humming insect – all are holy in the memory and experience of my people.

We know the sap that courses through the trees as we know the blood that courses through our veins. We’re part of the earth and it is part of us. The perfumed flowers are our sisters. The bear, the deer, the great eagle, these are our brothers.

The rocky crests, the juices and the meadow, the body heat of the pony, and men all belong to the same family. The shiny water that moves through the streams and rivers is not just water but the blood of our ancestors. If we sell you our land you must remember that it is sacred. Each ghostly reflection in the clear water of the lakes tells of events and memories in the life of my people. The water’s murmur is the voice of my father’s father.

The rivers are our brothers. They quench our thirst. They carry our canoes and feed our children. So you must give to the rivers the kindness you would give any brother.

If we sell you our land, remember that the air is precious to us, that the air shares its spirit with all the life it supports. The wind that gave our grandfather his first breath also receives his last sigh. The wind also gives our children the spirit of life. So if we sell you our land you must keep it a part and sacred as a place where man can go to taste the wind that is sweetened by the meadow flowers.
Will you teach your children what we’ve taught our children that the earth is our mother? What befalls the earth befalls all the sons of the earth.

This we know: the earth does not belong to man, man belongs to the earth. All things are connected like the blood that unites us all. Man did not weave the web of life; he is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself.

One thing we know, our God is also your God. The earth is precious to Him and to harm the earth is to heap contempt on its creator.

Your destiny is a mystery to us. What will happen when the buffalo are all slaughtered? The wild horses tamed? What will happen when the secret corners of the forest are heavy with the scent of many men and the view of the ripe hills is blotted by talking wires? Where will the thicket be? Gone. Where will the eagle be? Gone. And what is it to say goodbye to the swift pony and the hunt? The end of living and the beginning of survival.

When the last red man has vanished with his wilderness and his memory is only the shadow of a cloud moving across the prairie, will these shores and forests still be here? Will there be any of the spirit of my people left?

We love this earth as a newborn loves its mother’s heartbeat. So, if we sell you our land, love it as we have loved it. Care for it, as we’ve cared for it. Hold in your mind the memory of the land as it is when you receive it. Preserve the land for all children, and love it, as God loves us all.

As we are part of the land you too are part of the land. This earth is precious to us it is also precious to you.

One thing we know – there is only one God. No man, be he Red man or White man, can be apart. We are brothers after all.”

Chief Seattle famous speech – Read by Joseph Campbell

Chief Seattle responds to the US President – Read by Deepak Chopra

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